Ubuntu One, Live Mesh, and Dropbox: A Comparison

Recently there has been a lot of discussion on Planet Ubuntu in regards to the new service created by Canonical, Ubuntu One.  This post will try to put some comparisions in place.

I remember at one session at UDS Jaunty in Mountain View a mention of a new service over the web.  Apparently this is what Ubuntu One is going to be.  Part of the discussion it seems is that Ubuntu One burst onto the scene, I first heard about it on identi.ca as a dent from someone to someone else.  Interested and curious i signed up and took a look at what it offers.  The first disappointment was that it was Gnome only but part of me was resigned to this.  Cannocial’s focus has always been on GNOME and will likely remain that way.  However since Kubuntu is a large part of the Ubuntu world and is getting more and more official support from Mark and others within Canonical that I was hoping there would be a KDE client as well.  As mentioned elsewhere the pay plans are smaller then the pay plans for Dropbox.  I read elsewhere  the service is hosted on Amazon EC2 servers.  So not only am I using a third party to store my data in, I am using a 3rd 3rd party.  I am using a service provided by Canonical hosted on Amazon servers in the cloud.  What happens if either service goes down?  Then the data sync will fail.  Finally there is no Windows or Mac client to Ubuntu One.  This is crucial to have and support other Operating Systems, including other Linux distributions.  I work with both Windows systems and Kubuntu systems, how do I keep my data synced?  I can’t with Ubuntu One but with Dropbox I can. 
Is there a further link or hook into Ubuntu, like Contacts, or Web Pages or something else?  Can I develop for this framework?  (Not that I could develop anythign to save my butt…)  If so will this be GNOME only will there be hooks into the KDE framework as well?  If not its a shame

I use Dropbox daily and have talked other co-workers into looking into the service.  Dropbox has both Mac, Linux and Windows clients.  One of the ways I use Dropbox is I sync my files between my XP VM and my Ubuntu host automatically.  One problem with dropbox is that relies on Nautilus, GNOME, to work correctly.  I wish there was a KDE client, hopefully one day there is.  A problem with dropbox is you need to put files in you dropbox folder, you cannot add any pre-existing folders to your drobox for syncing.  Example I wish I could add a folder in My Documents or /home/jonathan/Documents that was full of files, instead I need to move those folders to wherever I stored My Dropbox.

Live Mesh is a service created by Microsoft and runs on Windows Mobile and Windows Operating Systems, also in development or may have already been released.  A big downer is there no Linux client to the Mesh Framework.  And that is what Live Mesh is, it is a framework that the Azure cloud services will run on.  Perhaps this is what Ubuntu One will strive to be one day.
One of the nice things is that through the Live Mesh client one can access RDP of all the systems you have the client installed on.  This allows me to install Mesh on one PC and then RDP into it over the internet without changing a firewall.  The Live Mesh system also has some basic revision control built into it and can help you resolve changes.
Mesh also allows you to share folders with other people who have Mesh accounts.  I do not know if Dropbox can do this or if Ubuntu One can do this.  At work we used this sharing for collaboration on a couple of projects.  It would be nice if Ubuntu One or Dropbox could do this.  THis collaboration is built from Groove, the product Ray Ozzie developed and Microsoft purchased.

Now I would love to throw my hat into using Ubuntu One service, however it seems I will be continuing using Dropbox soley for the reason there is a Windows and Linux client.

Response to: “MS’ new OS still needs anti-virus software”

Read a blog posting on one of the planets that I subscribe, either Debian, Fedora, or Ubuntu that questions why Windows 7 should still need a virus program.  It touts how great Linux is due to it not needing a virus program.

why is it that in the year 2009, Microsoft cannot make operating systems that do not ever need anti-virus software? It cannot build any operating system that is safe and virus-proof?

The question may better be asked is why do the people who make viruses and malware target the Windows Operating System insted of the Linux eco-system?  Could it be that Linux now has a whopping 1% market share compared to the rest of the Operating Systems out there?  Could it be the people who fall to most virus/malware would run the most dominate operating system type out there?

My parents use Windows, they have no interest in running Linux, in fact I don’t want to “convert” them to Linux.  Mostly it is because I don’t want to try and support thier needs.  My dad does a lot of photo editing with the different Adobe products, he has some books, went to a class on using the products, etc and I don’t want to have to be the one who needs to find the best OSS product out there for him.  There are other programs that just run correctly with Windows XP/Vista they are not interested in learning a new product.

But they need virus/malware protection.  Why?  Simple, the people who write these target Windows users.  Because they can make money off them.  Also remember there are more flaws in OEM software in the WIndows world  then on the OS itself.

Am I suprised Windows 7 is recommending Anti Virus?  No, I am glad it gives me a warning when I don’t have a product out there

Thanks for my Kubuntu 9.04 CD

Dear Friends at ShipIT,

Thank you for my new shiny Kubuntu 9.04 CD.  Though I do miss the circle of friends I do like the change in the CD Jacket.  They look very nice and professional.  Thank you very much.

A satisfied contributor

Further thoughts on operationalizing your security

In an earlier post, I referencedthe CEO of Symantec, Enrique Salem’s speech at the RSA conference where he talked about operationalizing your security.  This week I have been working at several clients doing Proof of Concepts on Symantec DLP.  This week has lead to think very hard on how the different peices of the Symantec stack fit together very neatly.

No longer are we secure because we run anti-virus plus proper firewalls in place, we need a system in place to deal with the changing threats.  Three years ago I was working as a network administrator for a private bank, we had a security policy in place, we managed our Windows Updates, we had network scans done quarterly and penetration testing done as well.  Were we secure?  Maybe, maybe not there were a lot of things I did not have visibility into.  Did we have data leakage? Were our severs in compliance?  Were people copying data on to USB drives/DVD drives?  I just didn’t know.

Now with the different products in the Symantec product set we can work on getting that visiblity we need.  it is not be the draconian IT department that all the other departments fear.  It is about being safe with our companies data and being smart with what we are trusted with.

More thoughts to follow as I start to work on Operationalizing Security

Problems running Dropbox on Kubuntu Jaunty

Running Kubuntu Jaunty and getting a problems starting Dropbox. I used to have no problems with this under Interepid and just noticed that my dropbox hasn’t been updating lately.

This is from running dropboxd
Traceback (most recent call last):
File “__main__dropbox__.py”, line 3, in
File “arch/__init__.py”, line 20, in
File “arch/linux/startup.py”, line 11, in
File “ui/wx_core.py”, line 7, in
File “wx/__init__.py”, line 45, in
File “wx/_core.py”, line 4, in
File “wx/_core_.py”, line 14, in
ImportError: /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: XRRGetScreenResourcesCurrent
jonathan@jonathan-laptop:~/.kde/Autostart$

Any ideas?